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the oldest and strongest human emotion

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is fear

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and the oldest and strongest type of

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fear

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is trepidation of the unknown

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane

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my name is lon strickler

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join me as i examine unexplained

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creatures

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strange manifestations of remarkable

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realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory

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but for new knowledge of the

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supernatural

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come on board as we begin this adventure

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together

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folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio where we

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explore the unexplained live on beyond

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explanation

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i'm your host lon stricker coming to you

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with an account shout out to the howl

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fields of gettysburg pennsylvania thanks

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for joining me

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now first before i bring my guests in

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tonight i um i did

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post an image and a description

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on a few social media outlets and um

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today on the blog

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this was a photo taken by david eckhart

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a while back and uh you know at the time

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i had a sense that this was some type of

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wing humanoid

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and and i've had that ever since i saw

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this thing so last night

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uh and for those who don't know

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myself and a colleague have been

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involved with

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contacting

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what we know to be an ultra-terrestrial

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and these contacts

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uh confirmed that this

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image was indeed a member of their

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legion

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who have appeared at the o'hare

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international airport locate locations

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in the region

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now uh my associate and i

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have recently established contact with

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what they call themselves

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the unseen ones

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and continue to devise our team in hope

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that a profound discovery will result in

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full disclosure now

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now these ultra terrestrials have been

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among us much longer than has ever been

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anticipated and uh

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you know if you want to follow up on our

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investigations on this just go to

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famismaster.com or go to

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cryptohunters.org

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you know

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after i posted this last night and today

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the you know i kind of garnered a lot of

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response from readers and followers um

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at this point i'm kind of hesitant to

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release further revelations um

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now we have been super busy recording

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documenting

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and following up the past few weeks i

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mean it has been a whirlwind and um our

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team

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will have the final say on all public

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releases in regards to the chicago and

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o'hare um sightings

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for those who have

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been concerned by the ultra-terrestrials

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use of the term legion

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it's simply a word used by them to

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describe their collective

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no biblical no spiritual no

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so-called demonic connections involved

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here

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uh and the ultra-terrestrial factions

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consist of many varieties of beings

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angels

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so just please bear with us uh

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i realize uh

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many of

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those who hear this and hear our

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presentations may seem to think it's

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some fantastical of some sort but but

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for those who have followed me over the

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years you know

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that i'm not a conspiratorial theorist i

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mean you know i i just don't you know i

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want to make sure when i receive the

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information i present it as is

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i may comment on it and and let you

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decide for yourself so um

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you know i'm just simply trying to seek

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the truth and find the truth so

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it is what it is and i appreciate you

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keeping an open mind on this

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so tonight i welcome to arcane radio

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green county pennsylvania resident james

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west now james

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has had two horrendous crypt encounters

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um cryptic k-9 encounters

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near his home when he was in his late

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teens now this story

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is a detailed account of actual physical

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contact with these terrifying cryptids

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very unusual i was blown away when i

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first heard about it

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so uh james thanks for joining me this

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evening hey thanks for having me lon

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so let's get right down to it you uh

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tell us about your first encounter why

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it started where were you and uh

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what happened

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okay well a little back story um

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2002 in the summer

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i was 16 years old

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i used to hunt behind my house all the

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i found claw marks they looked like a

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bear's claw

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about seven or eight foot up a tree

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i didn't think

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a whole lot about it then

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obviously now i

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know a little bit better

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my first encounter

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i couldn't sleep

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and i got up it was about 11 30 at night

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snowing like a blizzard outside

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um but i got all my gear together

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and went to my place where i hunt

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coyotes and different you know

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i hunt all kinds of stuff there i used

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to hunt squirrel and rabbit and coyote

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anyway

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i went out like i said it was snowing i

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worked my way down a hill real steep

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and go down to a ravine work your way

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around the ravine

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down across a little stream up the other

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i walked up a mine road and they had a

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big pile crush and run which is like the

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gravel that they used to build roadways

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it was set in there

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and so i i put my collar out

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put my back up against that

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power crushing run i sat down

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indian style

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brought my knees up so i could lay my

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gun across

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my knees

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so that way whenever i got a shot at a

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coyote the gun would already be aiming

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where it needed to be

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i sat there for

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a good 45 minutes to an hour getting

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well below zero getting

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really frigid

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and i had a uh

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we used to have a one million candle wat

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spotlight that was battery powered and

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it had a red filter on it

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canines don't see red very well

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so the hopes are whenever you turn that

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light on it gives you a few seconds to

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get a shot at a coyote

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or a fox or whatever you're after

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before it notices the light

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when i reached to turn the light on to

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leave

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i turned it on and it locks in place

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so it stays on

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about 10 feet away from me

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on down on all fours

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at first i thought man that is the

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biggest

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freaking coyote i've ever seen in my

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life

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that changed real quick

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whenever it as soon as that light hit it

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it had its nose to the ground as soon as

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that light hit it it went like this and

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it looked right at me

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so that tells me that it can see red

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we know that these are upright canines

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but they can't

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be 100 canines then if they don't have

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all of the characteristics right right

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anyway

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i hit it with the light and it was on

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all fours that lifted its head up and

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looked at me

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it took a step backwards and then

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proceeded to stand itself up and puff

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its chest out at me

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i heard one deep pop in its chest

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i i know a lot of people say they hear a

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lot of popping and stuff but i didn't

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hear

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just that one real deep like you hit a

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drum it was

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that it resonated because it was so

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quiet out there

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anyway

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i didn't really have time

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in fear

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it took one step on two legs towards me

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and i shot it

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i hit it in the upper right part of its

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chest

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the blood misted

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made a nice big plume of blood

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it took two steps to its left and was

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gone

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so that million candle wat

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range is about a 12 foot circle of light

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and it was off to the

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off to my left of the light

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so it took two steps and it covered

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10 to 12 feet in two steps and was gone

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i i shot at it two more times as it was

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running but i i it was so fast i knew i

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didn't hit it but i i had to try you

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walking

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in the direction that this thing went

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and there's puddles of blood laying

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there there's about a pie plate size

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puddle of blood laying there on the

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load your gun you idiot

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you know i

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i did i was so my adrenaline was going

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so fast at that point i i forgot to

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reload you know i stopped myself and

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reloaded the shotgun

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and i was using number two coyote loads

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and which that's pretty hefty

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especially 10 feet away i mean the whole

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wad goes through something at that range

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it doesn't have a chance to open up i

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mean that's just one step

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smaller than buckshot really right right

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it's one step smaller than single watt

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so i

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i reloaded

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and i started following it i got about

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30 feet out and i noticed the blood

298
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pools were getting smaller and smaller

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and smaller like every few feet there

300
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was less and less blood

301
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good tracks

302
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because of the snow but

303
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there was the blood was reducing and

304
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that worried me that maybe this thing is

305
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healing itself

306
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you know it's it's now it's wounded

307
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and it's a bad spot to be in it's after

308
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midnight you can't see around you i

309
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couldn't see my hand in front of my face

310
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without that light i was done

311
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so i

312
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like i said i followed it about 30 more

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feet

314
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and

315
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no blood at all

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just some tracks and the tracks were

317
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you know

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if i had to guess at least 14 inches

319
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they were big big tracks and they had

320
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that tapered down effect to the back of

321
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their leg

322
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and it the

323
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what i saw had hawks on it

324
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it had hawks just like a dog leg

325
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and they bent backwards

326
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but i uh

327
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i worked my way out

328
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and i still hunted the whole way would

329
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take a couple steps stop listen shine my

330
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light around make sure i wasn't being

331
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followed or set up for an ambush

332
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and i did that for two miles i walked

333
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two miles out of the way

334
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keep in mind to get there i walked about

335
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500 yards

336
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straight line

337
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but to follow a wide open trail and to

338
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work my way back to a main paved road it

339
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was about two miles that was smart

340
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that was smart

341
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wow so what's the first thing you

342
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thought i mean well when you saw this

343
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thing

344
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you you thought it was a a huge coyote

345
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but what how did your mind work after

346
00:13:59,670 --> 00:13:58,240
that

347
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did you think you just saw something

348
00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:02,639
supernatural or what

349
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to be honest it happened so fast

350
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[Music]

351
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i still have trouble wrapping my head

352
00:14:13,030 --> 00:14:11,600
around it i bet did it i mean it was

353
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just

354
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you know you don't expect to turn on a

355
00:14:19,750 --> 00:14:17,519
latency a real life werewolf standing in

356
00:14:20,790 --> 00:14:19,760
front of you you know yeah

357
00:14:23,430 --> 00:14:20,800
and

358
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like i said i already had my gun leveled

359
00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:25,839
because i was planning on shooting at

360
00:14:30,790 --> 00:14:27,680
something already

361
00:14:33,590 --> 00:14:30,800
but once it stood up and took a step

362
00:14:35,910 --> 00:14:33,600
that i took that as aggressive

363
00:14:38,870 --> 00:14:35,920
and that's when i shot i mean

364
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two to three seconds max

365
00:14:47,750 --> 00:14:45,519
and

366
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that that was it i mean that

367
00:14:52,069 --> 00:14:49,279
i fired

368
00:14:54,550 --> 00:14:52,079
well it's probably good you had you had

369
00:14:57,030 --> 00:14:54,560
two shot in there instead of a upland

370
00:14:59,829 --> 00:14:57,040
game load of maybe six

371
00:15:01,750 --> 00:14:59,839
or seven you know because uh

372
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i mean you had a little stopping power

373
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then you got your i mean you got its

374
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attention

375
00:15:09,670 --> 00:15:07,440
um right so you know the thing took off

376
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and took all well and uh

377
00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:11,440
fortunately you never met up with it

378
00:15:14,230 --> 00:15:12,560
again

379
00:15:16,949 --> 00:15:14,240
but uh you kind of believe it was

380
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healing itself which

381
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you know with all the all the stories

382
00:15:22,069 --> 00:15:20,160
i've heard especially here in

383
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pennsylvania with these upright canines

384
00:15:27,910 --> 00:15:26,079
or even the quadrupeds um

385
00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:27,920
there's some pretty weird stuff i mean

386
00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:29,680
they they all like you said the

387
00:15:35,749 --> 00:15:32,560
description was very dead on what we get

388
00:15:37,829 --> 00:15:35,759
huge beings um very muscular

389
00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:37,839
yeah if i had to put arnold

390
00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:39,440
schwarzenegger

391
00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:42,480
but make him about two foot taller

392
00:15:45,829 --> 00:15:43,680
and and

393
00:15:48,470 --> 00:15:45,839
even bigger than he was when he was mr

394
00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:48,480
universe i mean just chiseled chiseled

395
00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:49,199
out

396
00:15:53,910 --> 00:15:51,040
it didn't have a whole lot of hair on

397
00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:53,920
its front right the hair was

398
00:15:58,629 --> 00:15:56,320
up here from what i could see

399
00:16:00,470 --> 00:15:58,639
it had the ears on top of its head like

400
00:16:01,430 --> 00:16:00,480
this with the tufts on them

401
00:16:03,509 --> 00:16:01,440
but it's

402
00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:03,519
i mostly noticed hair whenever after i

403
00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:05,680
shot and it turned to run

404
00:16:10,629 --> 00:16:07,519
that's when i saw the hair on it and it

405
00:16:12,949 --> 00:16:10,639
had a stumpy little tail i mean

406
00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:12,959
you know not

407
00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:19,189
huh

408
00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:21,040
well you know a lot of times when we get

409
00:16:24,470 --> 00:16:22,800
these reports people don't even mention

410
00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:24,480
the tail you know they don't

411
00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:26,639
they're too busy looking at the the

412
00:16:29,749 --> 00:16:28,160
mouth and the size of the thing let

413
00:16:32,629 --> 00:16:29,759
alone to look at a tail

414
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:32,639
so but you know small tail like that it

415
00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:34,320
that is unusual

416
00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:36,880
well it never opened its mouth at me oh

417
00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:39,440
didn't it no it didn't bear it's this

418
00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:41,440
one didn't bare teeth at me at all it

419
00:16:45,189 --> 00:16:43,759
just it made that aggressive gesture

420
00:16:47,590 --> 00:16:45,199
towards me and

421
00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:47,600
that's all i needed

422
00:16:51,189 --> 00:16:49,120
wow

423
00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:51,199
that's a that that's that's remarkable

424
00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:53,120
that is really remarkable does it still

425
00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:54,959
affect you to this day

426
00:16:57,990 --> 00:16:56,639
because i can see it okay you guys are

427
00:17:02,310 --> 00:16:58,000
talking about it

428
00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:02,320
yeah i still have some issues with it um

429
00:17:07,829 --> 00:17:04,559
i i like to say i'm heavily medicated

430
00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:08,949
because

431
00:17:14,789 --> 00:17:13,439
um i i take medication for ptsd yeah and

432
00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:14,799
for um

433
00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:17,280
bipolar

434
00:17:19,829 --> 00:17:18,480
yeah

435
00:17:21,429 --> 00:17:19,839
interesting

436
00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:21,439
um

437
00:17:24,630 --> 00:17:22,720
well you know

438
00:17:27,029 --> 00:17:24,640
and you know as well as anybody that

439
00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:27,039
greene county is a i mean greene county

440
00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:28,480
people don't know is

441
00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:30,320
right in the southwest corner of

442
00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:33,120
pennsylvania uh you know that area then

443
00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:35,200
going into um you know into west

444
00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:37,760
virginia and and to ohio then of course

445
00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:40,240
over in washington county i have had a

446
00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:42,559
lot of cryptid activity over the years

447
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:44,320
and um

448
00:17:47,909 --> 00:17:46,640
but you know there was actually a book

449
00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:47,919
written

450
00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:48,799
um

451
00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:50,799
about greene county and the cryptids in

452
00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:53,919
green county and um

453
00:17:57,990 --> 00:17:55,520
yeah you know when i sent your account

454
00:17:59,909 --> 00:17:58,000
over to to stan gordon

455
00:18:01,430 --> 00:17:59,919
he had told me he had heard about your

456
00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:01,440
account before

457
00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:03,600
uh and that you know you know he wasn't

458
00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:06,400
really surprised by it and you know i

459
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:08,960
the the accounts that i have heard

460
00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:11,600
in in greene county and the and you've

461
00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:13,760
read mine with the dark walk or whatever

462
00:18:17,190 --> 00:18:15,200
the hell that thing was i don't even

463
00:18:18,789 --> 00:18:17,200
know what that was yet that may very

464
00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:18,799
well been an upright canine but it was

465
00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:19,760
just

466
00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:21,840
and it was different i mean

467
00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:24,000
that one was killed i mean that guy

468
00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:26,720
literally killed that thing so

469
00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:28,559
but yeah i remember reading about that

470
00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:31,039
that he shot it yeah

471
00:18:35,590 --> 00:18:33,120
yeah because the witness i mean the

472
00:18:38,070 --> 00:18:35,600
younger boy he he was looking at the

473
00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:38,080
side out of the living room out into the

474
00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:40,320
driveway and he saw this thing laying

475
00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:44,480
the back of the pickup so um yeah

476
00:18:48,789 --> 00:18:47,120
interesting well now of course that

477
00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:48,799
isn't the only setting you had the only

478
00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:51,280
encounter you had the leo was a bit more

479
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:53,840
physical why don't you give us an idea

480
00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:56,880
and give us tell us about that one well

481
00:19:00,950 --> 00:18:58,480
um

482
00:19:03,029 --> 00:19:00,960
the my second encounter was the

483
00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:03,039
following summer

484
00:19:09,669 --> 00:19:03,919
after

485
00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:09,679
following summer 03 i was 17

486
00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:11,600
and i was walking up

487
00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:12,880
uh

488
00:19:17,909 --> 00:19:15,600
our our main road that takes you out of

489
00:19:19,270 --> 00:19:17,919
town i was walking up it

490
00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:19,280
and about

491
00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:20,400
50

492
00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:24,720
to 60 feet down the road in front of me

493
00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:28,880
this it i mean it looked like

494
00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:31,520
if you took three

495
00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:33,520
bull mastiffs and put them on top of

496
00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:34,720
each other

497
00:19:38,630 --> 00:19:36,880
just that build that

498
00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:38,640
size

499
00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:40,799
and the head looked it had the

500
00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:43,600
coloration of almost of a rottweiler

501
00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:45,520
with doberman ears it didn't have the

502
00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:47,919
tufts on its ears like the first one did

503
00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:50,960
but it it had the pointed ears

504
00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:54,640
well anyway um like i said 50 60 feet

505
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:56,720
away

506
00:20:06,470 --> 00:19:58,000
i

507
00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:06,480
and

508
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:08,720
the only thing i could do i i didn't

509
00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:10,000
even think

510
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:11,760
i just reacted

511
00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:15,200
was i turned my body to the right

512
00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:18,799
and pushed my left arm out i made a fist

513
00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:21,280
and pushed my left arm out as hard as i

514
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:22,320
could

515
00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:25,520
and luckily when it opened its mouth

516
00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:28,559
my hand went right down its throat

517
00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:32,880
and i pushed for everything i had i got

518
00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:34,880
just passed my elbow

519
00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:37,280
into its throat

520
00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:40,480
and then i laid over top of it i grabbed

521
00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:42,480
it around the neck with my right arm and

522
00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:44,640
fell on top of it

523
00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:47,360
and i at first like i told you before i

524
00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:50,159
thought it was just a big dog

525
00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:52,960
until it grabbed me by the leg

526
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:55,600
you know it grabbed me with a actual

527
00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:57,679
hand

528
00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:00,240
and luckily i was wearing briar guards

529
00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:02,720
real heavy briar guards uh because me

530
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:04,720
and a friend that's where i was walking

531
00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:06,720
to was my friend's house we had planned

532
00:21:11,110 --> 00:21:08,559
on clearing out some multiflora rose

533
00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:11,120
bushes and stuff to make a little

534
00:21:14,830 --> 00:21:12,640
campground

535
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:14,840
and luckily i had those

536
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:17,840
heavy heavy pants on because i think if

537
00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:19,600
i didn't i would have had some serious

538
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:21,200
wounds

539
00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:24,480
um but like i said i laid on top of it

540
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:26,720
for two to three minutes i'm laying in

541
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,640
the middle of the road with this thing

542
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:30,320
you know

543
00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:32,000
i'm just i'm waiting for a car to come

544
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,559
and just run us both over

545
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:36,000
and

546
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:43,120
decided it was time to get up because i

547
00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:44,799
i thought i might i might have

548
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:47,120
suffocated it at that point because i

549
00:21:52,870 --> 00:21:49,840
had held it for three minutes

550
00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:52,880
at least two to three minutes at least

551
00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:55,679
and i was a lot stronger than i am now

552
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,960
back then and i i could feel its

553
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:00,480
bones and stuff

554
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:04,080
shifting under my squeezing it

555
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,320
so i thought maybe i had suffocated it

556
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:08,159
and i stood up

557
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:10,960
pulled my arm out of it shook that

558
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:14,400
god-awful death smelling

559
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:16,640
mucus off of me i mean that's the only

560
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:19,440
thing i can akin it to is if you've ever

561
00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:21,280
been riding down the road

562
00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:23,600
100 degrees outside and there's a dead

563
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:25,280
bloated deer on the side of the road

564
00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:27,039
that ruptured

565
00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:27,919
that's

566
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,360
and i mean it was gagging me mm-hmm i'm

567
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:35,360
sitting here scraping this stuff off me

568
00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:36,960
like yes you know just trying to get it

569
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:39,760
off me because it was so putrid

570
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:40,880
and

571
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:49,360
gonna do now you know

572
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:51,360
[Laughter]

573
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:52,480
luckily

574
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:54,480
it just gave me this look like it locked

575
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:56,400
eyes with me and it had the most

576
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:57,840
beautiful

577
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:00,400
amber colored eyes that i've ever seen

578
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:02,640
on any creature

579
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:04,799
it's like if you held a beer up to the

580
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:06,000
sunlight

581
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:07,679
how that light cascades through and it

582
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:09,760
gives it that real rich amber color

583
00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:11,520
that's that's exactly what it looked

584
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:14,720
like with big black pupils

585
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:17,919
but it locked eyes with me

586
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:20,640
and it just gave me this vibe it didn't

587
00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:22,799
mind speak like i've heard some people

588
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:24,880
say they've mind speak

589
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:26,000
with them

590
00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:29,600
um it didn't do that but it kind of just

591
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:32,400
gave me this vibe of like you bastard

592
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:34,559
you know you beat me

593
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:36,960
and yeah after it

594
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:39,280
gave me that it ran right past me and

595
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:41,360
ran right back into the woods

596
00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:43,760
[Music]

597
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:46,000
and i i never saw

598
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:48,640
that again

599
00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:51,039
have you ever had any indications of

600
00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:54,159
other uh uh cryptic canines around your

601
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,240
area or since then

602
00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:58,159
oh yeah um

603
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:01,520
at my i still to this day my mother

604
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:03,120
actually told me she heard a woman

605
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:05,279
crying in the woods at

606
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:08,080
like midnight one night

607
00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:09,679
she walked to the edge of the woods and

608
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:11,600
said do you need help

609
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:14,480
i'll help you and it stopped crying for

610
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:17,200
a second and then just continued and she

611
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:19,919
said i'll help you do you need help

612
00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:21,600
and it just kept crying and she said

613
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:23,200
well if you can't answer me you don't

614
00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:24,480
need my help

615
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:27,039
because i had just told her about

616
00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:29,600
the dog man and stuff in the area

617
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:31,360
and she's like i wasn't taking no

618
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:34,320
chances with that thing you know

619
00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:37,440
but we still to this day we get

620
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:39,039
late at night

621
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:41,360
whenever i stay down there

622
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:44,080
we get stuff knocking on the windows

623
00:24:47,269 --> 00:24:46,159
knocking on the doors knocking on the

624
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:47,279
walls

625
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,679
and i have two big pitbull german

626
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:51,360
shepherd mixes

627
00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:53,760
and normally they're the kind of dogs

628
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:55,919
that like if a dirt bike goes by they

629
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:57,840
try to tackle the guy off a dirt bike

630
00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:00,559
you know they're they're not scared but

631
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:04,400
they cower it's like they know when it's

632
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:06,480
you know when it's not a good thing to

633
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:08,799
be tangling with they they hide in a

634
00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:09,840
corner

635
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:12,880
they don't even bark or anything

636
00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:16,480
um the the one night it was a couple

637
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:18,640
years ago

638
00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:20,799
um

639
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,159
every winter

640
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:24,240
i take two by fours and put them over

641
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:26,000
our basement doors we have double doors

642
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:27,679
in the basement

643
00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:30,480
and i put two by fours one high one

644
00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:33,200
immediate one in the middle and one low

645
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:36,159
and then i put tarps over it

646
00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:38,080
to try to keep the weather out and to

647
00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:40,159
keep the doors from banging because they

648
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:42,960
they move in the wind well i used three

649
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:44,400
and a half inch

650
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:47,840
deck screws to put them up with

651
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:51,039
and something 3 30 4 o'clock in the

652
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:53,520
morning i was upstairs

653
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:55,279
i had fell asleep in the chair in the

654
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:56,640
living room

655
00:26:02,470 --> 00:25:59,520
and i heard it sounded like um

656
00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:02,480
if you ever tried to drill a screw into

657
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:03,679
wood

658
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:05,039
without drilling a pilot hole and it

659
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:07,120
makes that real high pitch blinding

660
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:08,240
sound

661
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:12,720
intermittent bursts like

662
00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:14,240
like yeah

663
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:15,279
and

664
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:16,640
i was wondering what it was it was

665
00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:19,520
coming from the basement so i i grabbed

666
00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:21,039
my handgun

667
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:22,880
and i went down into the basement and it

668
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:24,640
had already quit

669
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:27,200
but those screws were pushed out a good

670
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:29,120
inch inch and a half

671
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:30,960
and the boards were

672
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:32,480
cracking

673
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,080
so whatever it was it it wasn't a person

674
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:38,400
because i don't know too many people

675
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:39,919
that are strong enough to break three

676
00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:43,600
two by fours on a padlock door

677
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:46,000
i mean if you think about it torque wise

678
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:47,279
that would have had to have been at

679
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:49,120
least eight to a thousand eight hundred

680
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:51,200
to a thousand pounds of

681
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:52,320
of uh

682
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:55,760
pull on that thing just to get it loose

683
00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:59,039
screws if not more

684
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:01,520
the thing that got me is it didn't even

685
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:03,919
cut the tarp on the outside of the door

686
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:06,960
is that right it didn't leave a single

687
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:08,640
mark on that door

688
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:11,039
so it must have used like the flat parts

689
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:13,840
of its hands yeah it just leaned against

690
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:16,880
the door trying to push it open

691
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,799
that's that's what i think it was doing

692
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:20,480
it was trying to

693
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:23,360
test that door to see if it could get in

694
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:26,320
because it was only

695
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:28,960
a month before that we had

696
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:31,200
stuff getting thrown against the windows

697
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:34,799
and that tap tap tap of of a nail on the

698
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:37,360
window and it was in my mother's bedroom

699
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:39,679
and her room's only about five feet off

700
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,240
the ground and it it was tapping the

701
00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:44,799
upper part of the window which is about

702
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:47,279
eight foot

703
00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:48,720
um

704
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:51,440
so i'm not surprised that it was trying

705
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:53,120
to get in

706
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:54,320
you know i

707
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:56,240
i don't know if there's a population of

708
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:57,039
them

709
00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:59,679
or if there's just a handful

710
00:28:01,510 --> 00:28:00,559
but

711
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,520
it's like

712
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:03,760
they have a vendetta against me they

713
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:06,480
know my scent they followed me right to

714
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,840
my house

715
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:09,600
even though i went two miles out of the

716
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:13,520
way to get back home that time

717
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:15,360
they followed me they centered me they

718
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:17,919
tracked me down like i was like i had

719
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:22,470
well your story is probably one of the

720
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:24,480
most horrific ones i've heard anywhere

721
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:27,360
let alone pennsylvania i mean that's

722
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:29,200
that's that's just wild you know i've

723
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,240
had stories and encounters where

724
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:34,559
even hunters would walk up but they're

725
00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:36,320
you know they don't have any but maybe a

726
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:40,000
deer rifle or at the most but maybe most

727
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,600
of the time it's woodland

728
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:43,600
you know upland

729
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:46,480
game shot and um

730
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:48,080
they will walk up to these things now

731
00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:49,679
these things will stand the ground they

732
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:51,919
really will i mean they they

733
00:28:55,510 --> 00:28:54,159
very rarely back away

734
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:55,520
and uh

735
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:57,440
i don't know how tall this one was you

736
00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:59,919
saw but i you know

737
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:01,760
i've had people telling me nine to ten

738
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:04,399
foot so you may very well be the same

739
00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:06,559
thing you saw um

740
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:08,399
you know have you heard of anybody else

741
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,720
in your area that had any type of

742
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,640
encounter or people just keep them quiet

743
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:13,679
about it

744
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:17,919
um i believe it was in 2004

745
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:19,279
a group of

746
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,440
kids were on their bicycles on the same

747
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:23,440
exact road where i had my second

748
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:24,880
encounter

749
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:27,200
they were playing around riding their

750
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:30,000
bikes in a little area and they saw a uh

751
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:31,679
eight foot tall

752
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:33,360
hairy man

753
00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:34,960
they didn't know how what they were

754
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:36,799
younger kids like in their you know like

755
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,360
12 10 and 12 years old

756
00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:41,679
and they they just said that they had

757
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:44,080
seen a hairy man

758
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:45,840
but he was huge

759
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:46,799
you know

760
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:48,399
dwarfed them

761
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:49,520
um

762
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:52,960
my first encounter i would put

763
00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:56,880
that dog man at

764
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:59,360
at least seven and a half to eight foot

765
00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:00,799
tall

766
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:03,200
like i said i was sitting down so it did

767
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:05,520
embellish the height a little bit to me

768
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:07,600
because i you know i wasn't standing up

769
00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:09,200
to kind of get

770
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:12,159
that height to it yeah but

771
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,559
i would say at least seven and a half

772
00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:16,320
eight foot tall and

773
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,630
did you ever see any eye color in your

774
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:24,720
first one i mean on the one that stood

775
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:25,760
up

776
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:26,640
no

777
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:29,200
it its eyes were red but like i said i

778
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:31,520
had that red filter on so

779
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:33,600
i'm assuming that it was because of the

780
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:35,600
filter

781
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:37,679
well i tell ya you know i spent a lot of

782
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:40,720
time on my my aunt and uncle's farm and

783
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:43,679
i used to hunt a lot of hunting in there

784
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:45,840
and like like you had there was a lot of

785
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:49,440
field and a lot of woods attached to it

786
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:50,640
uh

787
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:52,320
you know i don't know how much i would

788
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:53,760
hunting i would do there anymore if

789
00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:55,919
after hearing a story like that because

790
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:57,200
uh

791
00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:59,679
you know i'll be honest with you i

792
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:01,760
ever since i started looking into all

793
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:03,200
this stuff you know i had my first

794
00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:05,120
encounter in 81

795
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:07,679
right with a bigfoot and um quite

796
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:10,240
frankly i i have had no intention going

797
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:11,440
in the woods

798
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:13,760
armed or otherwise since then you know

799
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:14,720
because

800
00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:16,159
there's just more stuff out there than

801
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:17,679
people realize

802
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:21,840
oh it it scars you yeah it does i mean

803
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:23,919
um

804
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:26,720
like you you can you could talk to my

805
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:28,960
father because we used to go

806
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:30,480
hunting together

807
00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:32,640
you know frequently

808
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:34,960
and

809
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:39,600
recently about the dog man encounters

810
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:42,320
and stuff because i just

811
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:44,000
i didn't even think

812
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:45,519
this was something that people were

813
00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:47,360
seeing until i started doing my own

814
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:49,039
research and finding out wow there's a

815
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:50,960
lot of these things

816
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:53,919
and but he could tell you he i'm sure he

817
00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:56,240
noticed a time where i was bright-eyed

818
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:58,480
bushy-tailed ready to go

819
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:00,799
and then i kind of like i'd rather stay

820
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:05,430
yeah i don't blame you i mean if i if i

821
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:07,200
was that age and saw something like that

822
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,480
i would definitely

823
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:10,320
be thinking twice about even going back

824
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:12,240
out there especially at nighttime

825
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:14,320
you know after coyote hunting i mean god

826
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:15,919
you know just no way in hell i'd be

827
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,279
doing that

828
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,519
so i let me uh i'm gonna tell the the

829
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:21,200
chat the folks in the chat if you've got

830
00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:24,640
a question put it up on all cap letters

831
00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:28,960
and uh you know we'll get it over to uh

832
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:31,279
uh to james if he done my mind answering

833
00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:34,559
questions uh i i i just find it being

834
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:38,000
very remarkable you know this phenomena

835
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:40,159
of the upright canine particular though

836
00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:42,399
we've had the quadrupeds

837
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:45,830
you know

838
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:47,919
it's overall it's pretty pretty this you

839
00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:49,919
know pretty similar to that

840
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:52,080
uh but the fact that you were attacked

841
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:53,440
by

842
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:54,880
you know i wish i knew the reason for

843
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:57,440
that you know if why it would literally

844
00:33:02,310 --> 00:32:59,039
attack you like that

845
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:02,320
i see i have a theory about that my my

846
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:04,720
personal opinion is

847
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:07,279
there's obviously more than one of them

848
00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:11,120
in that area okay and the second

849
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:14,399
encounter was the a juvenile because it

850
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:17,679
it could have only weighed 250 pounds

851
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:20,080
for me to manhandle it right

852
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,679
you know i mean and i didn't really

853
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:23,519
manhandle it i kind of just lucked out

854
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:25,279
and fell on it

855
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:29,679
and you got lucky yeah exactly

856
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:30,960
and uh

857
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:31,919
but

858
00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:34,559
it was only about six foot long

859
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:37,279
not counting and it had a tail it had an

860
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:39,760
actual long bushy tail

861
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:41,919
okay um but not counting the tail it was

862
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:45,120
about six foot long wow

863
00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:46,000
wow

864
00:33:50,830 --> 00:33:48,320
uh we had a question by uh

865
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:50,840
by james g

866
00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:52,559
yeah no didn't make any sound or

867
00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:54,640
screaming when you shot it

868
00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:58,799
it it made one yip sound it went

869
00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:01,120
like that whenever i hit it and its ears

870
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:03,200
dropped back and then it took off

871
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,200
running

872
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:06,799
i imagine it was probably surprised

873
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,480
anything shot at it

874
00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:10,240
but quite honestly

875
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:11,679
uh that may have been the first time

876
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:14,240
that ever happened but

877
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:15,760
who knows

878
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:18,480
um

879
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:21,200
angie james could you salvage any of the

880
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:22,800
blood

881
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:26,159
no it at that time like i said i was 16

882
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:27,839
and i

883
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,149
if

884
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:36,720
you know i i didn't even realize what it

885
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:39,280
happened really it was

886
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:41,760
it was so

887
00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:43,200
like i said i still have trouble

888
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:46,800
wrapping my mind around it happening

889
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:48,720
well i i tell you some of the witnesses

890
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:50,320
we get you know even though the thing

891
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:52,320
would attack it just

892
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:54,000
it just stuns the hell out of you and

893
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:55,440
they're they're basically in shock and

894
00:35:07,829 --> 00:34:58,560
i'm quite sure you're in shock oh

895
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:09,829
what we got here

896
00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:11,760
okay um

897
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:14,000
do farm dogs ever hunt these creatures

898
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:17,680
or do dog dogman ever hunting packs

899
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:19,680
i i don't know i mean i never heard of

900
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:20,880
anybody

901
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:23,680
seeing a pack other than two of them

902
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:25,920
uh and these were quadrupeds but they

903
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:26,720
looked

904
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:28,800
that's what the ones i call the dog man

905
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,800
the quadrupeds that have like the hyena

906
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:31,920
back and

907
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:33,040
very

908
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:37,200
and i've seen this person i had talked

909
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:38,880
to saw two of them

910
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:41,280
uh but have you ever heard of anybody

911
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,800
seeing any of these things in packs

912
00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:47,040
i personally haven't i've i've read

913
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:50,240
reports that they hunt in packs but

914
00:35:56,069 --> 00:35:53,440
personal experience i don't know i'm i'm

915
00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:56,079
assuming like i said because

916
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,960
these were two different

917
00:36:02,069 --> 00:36:00,240
entities

918
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:02,079
from my first encounter to my second

919
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,480
encounter there they were two separate

920
00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:06,480
animals you could tell they looked

921
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:07,760
different

922
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:09,359
so i mean

923
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:10,720
like i said is there a breeding

924
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:13,920
population there possibly

925
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:17,359
um do they have strong urges of

926
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,320
vengeance possibly

927
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:22,880
you know i mean i know i'd be po2 if

928
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:31,430
uh james did the uh did the second one

929
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:33,920
run away on two legs or on four legs it

930
00:36:40,710 --> 00:36:39,030
okay

931
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:40,720
well that could either been a young one

932
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:43,119
or um or you know

933
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:44,880
maybe just maybe just quarter bed it

934
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:46,160
could have been just quite a bit you

935
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:49,119
know we ran across with bigfoot that

936
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:50,720
you know people won't even see on two

937
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:52,560
legs at their own four legs

938
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,119
so uh you know who knows

939
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:57,599
well who's to say that they don't start

940
00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:59,119
out life

941
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:01,839
on all fours and they adapt as they get

942
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:04,720
older to walk on two legs who knows we

943
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:06,560
don't know

944
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:09,680
um uh does james think these were

945
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:11,760
werewolves or dog men

946
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:14,000
i believe they were dog men

947
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,119
do you

948
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:17,520
yeah yeah yeah i don't i don't buy into

949
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:19,599
the werewolf thing that's more

950
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,000
you know that's more for folk lore than

951
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:23,920
anything else you know a lot of people

952
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:24,880
like to

953
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,680
say

954
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:27,040
first thing they want to tell you when i

955
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:29,119
get a report is oh i saw a werewolf you

956
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:30,560
know but

957
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:36,790
are there any really good close-up

958
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:42,150
you know honestly the only one i know of

959
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:44,160
is the seven shoots

960
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:45,280
beast

961
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,800
from up quebec um

962
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:51,119
some people believe that was a a cryptic

963
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:52,640
canine

964
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:54,480
uh my friend today told me she thought

965
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:57,839
it was a saba which is possibly

966
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:00,240
a form of bigfoot i don't i don't know

967
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:02,960
uh you know that thing

968
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:05,359
it's pretty intriguing because

969
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:07,520
isn't it carrying a dog or something

970
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:09,440
that's carrying a weight dog i mean

971
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:11,040
that's it's weird

972
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:12,720
and this is an area well this is a

973
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:16,320
provincial park up in quebec and uh

974
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:18,400
uh whoever got the photograph i mean it

975
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:20,400
was damn lucky to get it i mean

976
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:22,079
i think they had a distance but they had

977
00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:24,800
a foot of uh telephotic lens on it but

978
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:25,599
uh

979
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:27,920
it was a remarkable photograph i think

980
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,440
that's probably the best one i've ever

981
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:31,440
seen now i've got one

982
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:32,880
and i should have put it in here for the

983
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,079
show but

984
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:36,960
one that got caught on trail cam up in

985
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,520
in northern georgia and uh

986
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:41,599
yeah you can tell that's a canine it's

987
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:44,640
big too so um

988
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:46,880
who knows

989
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:49,920
one thing with my first encounter i i

990
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:52,240
still debate with myself

991
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:54,880
i i close my eyes and look in my mind's

992
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:58,560
eye to try to see more detail

993
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:59,520
you know

994
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:01,119
and it had

995
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:06,320
a a sloped forehead but it had a snout

996
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:08,480
so i've had people tell me it could have

997
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:11,040
been a gugwee

998
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:11,920
you know

999
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:13,839
and they're typically the more

1000
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:15,280
aggressive

1001
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:17,839
type of dog man

1002
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:19,760
so i mean that that could be i mean it

1003
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:22,400
could have been sneaking up on me but

1004
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,599
who knows i mean are they

1005
00:39:27,710 --> 00:39:25,200
interdimensional

1006
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:27,720
or are they spiritual who knows are they

1007
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:30,000
extraterrestrial i mean

1008
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:31,440
it could have just

1009
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:33,119
popped into existence right in front of

1010
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:34,079
me and i

1011
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,320
you know because i still have you and i

1012
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:38,160
talked about that when we talked i mean

1013
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:40,480
uh who's to say what an interventional

1014
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:42,240
being and just popped right in front of

1015
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:43,920
it and that's why you never heard or saw

1016
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:47,040
anything right that's what i just i have

1017
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:48,560
a hard time

1018
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:51,520
because i do have pretty good hearing

1019
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:53,599
and i got a good sense of smell i mean

1020
00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:54,560
that's

1021
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,440
from a lifetime of being in the woods

1022
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,230
to not hear something walking through

1023
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:04,240
snow and

1024
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:06,560
possibly breaking branches

1025
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:08,800
rolling in gravel

1026
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:11,200
and it to be 10 feet away right that's

1027
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:13,359
that's what gets me is it to be 10 feet

1028
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:15,040
away from me

1029
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:17,200
and me to not hear

1030
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:19,920
see or smell anything the sight part i

1031
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:21,280
get because it was

1032
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,680
it was pitch black i mean

1033
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,920
like hand in front of your face you you

1034
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:27,839
couldn't count how many fingers you were

1035
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:30,400
holding up in front of your face

1036
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:31,200
but

1037
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:33,440
the the sound thing the wind was

1038
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:35,200
whipping pretty good but still you'd

1039
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:37,680
hear something you would you just think

1040
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:40,640
you would hear something

1041
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:42,400
yeah that's that's a bit of a conundrum

1042
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:44,640
i agree with you uh you know a lot of

1043
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:46,079
times when we get these cryptid

1044
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:47,760
sightings or reports

1045
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:49,599
there's other phenomena associated with

1046
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:51,280
it did you see any type of lights or

1047
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:54,880
orbs anything at any point

1048
00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:58,000
not with my encounters no um i saw we

1049
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:00,640
had a question there about ufos i i have

1050
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:04,000
seen two ufos in the area though

1051
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:04,880
at

1052
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,599
different times right

1053
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:09,599
well it's pennsylvania i mean you expect

1054
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:11,040
that

1055
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:12,560
you know you expect to find anything in

1056
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:14,400
this state it's crazy

1057
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:16,800
um

1058
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:19,520
uh and when somebody josh asked

1059
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:21,440
how many years after the incident did it

1060
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:23,359
bother you well it's still bothering you

1061
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:25,440
it still does and it's been almost 20

1062
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:26,880
years ago

1063
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:29,440
um that like i said that happened in

1064
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:31,520
2002

1065
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:32,640
and

1066
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:34,720
it's it's been

1067
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:36,960
you know this this will be next year

1068
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:38,640
will be 20 years

1069
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:39,760
uh next

1070
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,880
two weeks before next christmas

1071
00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:44,240
so it

1072
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:47,200
i still get night terrors from it i i

1073
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:50,319
wake up in cold sweats uh my girlfriend

1074
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,280
she

1075
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:52,960
tells me

1076
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:54,800
like my god how do you even sleep

1077
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:56,960
because you wake up screaming

1078
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:59,119
you know i

1079
00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:01,200
the thing is like i i don't even hear

1080
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:02,560
myself doing it because it's been

1081
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:08,390
like i'll i'll be screaming bloody

1082
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:10,720
murder and she's punching me and kicking

1083
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:12,640
me saying wake up you idiot you're

1084
00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:15,040
screaming you know i can't sleep

1085
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:17,599
and i'm i'm still asleep and i don't

1086
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,319
even realize it you know

1087
00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:22,800
but i'll tell you some of the dreams i

1088
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:24,000
have

1089
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,880
man

1090
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:26,400
are vivid

1091
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,480
of it well that's that's another thing

1092
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:30,800
we get from experiences like this uh it

1093
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:32,400
doesn't even have to be a dog man or

1094
00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:35,200
even a bigfoot or something it's um

1095
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:37,920
uh the after effect as far as in dreams

1096
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:39,839
and and other parts of your life and

1097
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:41,839
then all of a sudden something will pop

1098
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:43,680
up and remind you of it

1099
00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:45,760
and uh you know i've i've talked to

1100
00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:47,359
people who say they were driving down

1101
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:49,119
the road and saw something across the

1102
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:52,000
road a deer or something and they had to

1103
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:53,440
stop because that's the first thing they

1104
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:55,040
thought about that experience they had

1105
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:56,640
years before that

1106
00:43:01,829 --> 00:42:59,280
uh and you know they i guess they kind

1107
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:01,839
of just flashed back to see it

1108
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,920
and they had an anxiety attack or

1109
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:05,760
something because of it

1110
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:08,319
yeah well like i said i mean i'm on

1111
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:11,200
pretty heavy medications yeah i mean

1112
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:12,960
that's that's how i'm able to talk about

1113
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:14,960
it i've i've had people say before like

1114
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:16,880
well you don't sound like it bothered

1115
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,720
you or you know don't sound like it

1116
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:20,880
affected you it's like you don't realize

1117
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:22,880
how much

1118
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:27,760
now to let me be calm enough to talk

1119
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,960
about it yeah

1120
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:31,200
yeah well i can understand that and like

1121
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:32,720
i said i talked a lot of people under a

1122
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:37,829
you know i

1123
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:40,000
i i got to get people credit for coming

1124
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:41,359
forward i give you a lot of credit for

1125
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:42,880
coming forward because this is not an

1126
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:44,640
easy thing to talk about

1127
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,359
and uh not only the fact that it it was

1128
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:49,040
something that you experienced and it

1129
00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:51,280
bothered you but you're always gonna get

1130
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:53,839
naysayers and people are gonna jump on

1131
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:56,800
and try to find some skeptical

1132
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,119
uh horseshit to put in with it so you

1133
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:01,359
know i understand that completely yeah

1134
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:02,890
the skeptic's bandwagon

1135
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:06,400
[Laughter]

1136
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:07,280
yeah

1137
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:12,960
it's i mean in all honesty if i hadn't

1138
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:15,520
seen these things i'd think i was full

1139
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:17,040
of yeah yeah

1140
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:20,640
i i i bet i mean yeah i mean

1141
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:22,560
i you know when i had my encounter i had

1142
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,319
encountered a bigfoot and i had later

1143
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:26,079
had an encounter with a winged humanoid

1144
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:27,359
and uh

1145
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:28,960
if somebody told me

1146
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:30,640
you know this is gonna pop up in front

1147
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:32,240
of me i just laughed at him you know

1148
00:44:37,349 --> 00:44:35,200
yeah you know it's funny when a skeptic

1149
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:37,359
you know will talk all kinds of crap to

1150
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,760
you then then something happens and then

1151
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:41,440
they're a true believer i've seen it

1152
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:44,480
happen many times yep

1153
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:48,710
uh

1154
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:52,079
vincent of course said he thanks for

1155
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:53,520
coming forward

1156
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,520
brave enough to talk about this and i do

1157
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:57,839
too i mean i i really commend you for

1158
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:58,880
doing that

1159
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:00,240
uh

1160
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:03,599
communicate

1161
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:06,000
via telepathy you said you didn't think

1162
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:06,880
it did

1163
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:08,480
no

1164
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:11,680
like i said i i just got like a vibe

1165
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:13,520
i i don't i don't know how to describe

1166
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:17,200
it it i didn't hear anything in my head

1167
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,079
um like i've heard accounts of people

1168
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:22,560
saying that they actually heard

1169
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:24,960
literal words in their head

1170
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:27,520
um i didn't hear any words i just got

1171
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:29,599
that sense of it looking at me going

1172
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:32,800
like you bastard you know like

1173
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:34,000
i mean that's just

1174
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:36,079
like like if you've ever seen your dog

1175
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:38,480
and they're sarcastic looking at you

1176
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:41,280
that's that's what it what it was like

1177
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:43,119
it was looking at me with like at

1178
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:47,829
um

1179
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:50,240
uh blue cross words was there a loss of

1180
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:52,800
ambient sound before during or after the

1181
00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,880
encounter that's a good question

1182
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:56,400
well

1183
00:46:02,550 --> 00:45:59,599
prior to either of my encounters i went

1184
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,560
hunting back in there dozens of times

1185
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:04,000
and

1186
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:06,560
more than i can count there were times

1187
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,200
where just all the sound went away and

1188
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:11,200
then i heard something growling in the

1189
00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:12,880
bush

1190
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:14,800
and i would raise my gun at it and it

1191
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:17,040
would run away

1192
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:17,920
or

1193
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,750
the like i said the wind was blowing

1194
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:27,440
so i i didn't

1195
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:31,040
notice any thing out of the ordinary

1196
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:32,480
until i

1197
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:34,240
physically saw it

1198
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:36,720
um but yeah i do know that that that is

1199
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:38,800
a common thread though

1200
00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:40,640
i have a feeling that if the wind

1201
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:42,160
wouldn't have been whipping around the

1202
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:43,760
way it was

1203
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:45,599
i would have either heard it coming in

1204
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:46,800
on me

1205
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:48,960
or i would have noticed

1206
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,640
the the silence

1207
00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:52,480
but it like i said it was a it was a

1208
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:54,560
pretty good storm that night it was a it

1209
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:57,359
was a blizzard well you know how it and

1210
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:58,720
i know how it's been because i've sat

1211
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:01,119
through snowstorms a deer hunt yeah and

1212
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:02,720
uh it's almost like it allows you to

1213
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:05,200
sleep sometimes it just you know kind of

1214
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:07,200
deadens you to a point i guess it is

1215
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:09,200
hard to pick up things like that

1216
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:11,359
uh but i can understand that i really

1217
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:12,240
can

1218
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,520
um

1219
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:15,359
do you think it's from vincent do you

1220
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:16,640
think you have experienced more

1221
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:18,240
paranormal activity

1222
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:20,400
uh since this encounter like with you

1223
00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:21,119
know

1224
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:22,640
spirit

1225
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:25,760
definitely oh really definitely

1226
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:28,880
um i have some type of dark entity that

1227
00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:32,400
lives in the house that i live in

1228
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:34,559
um

1229
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:38,160
i i could get into that but uh i

1230
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:39,280
actually

1231
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:42,000
was i i believe that i was possessed

1232
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:43,839
because i lost an hour and a half of

1233
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:45,280
time

1234
00:47:49,589 --> 00:47:47,359
i woke up to

1235
00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:49,599
my dogs standing over me licking me in

1236
00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:51,839
the face trying to i think they were

1237
00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:54,079
trying to bring me out of it

1238
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:56,559
well while i was

1239
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,599
missing time i had called my girlfriend

1240
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,040
unknowingly

1241
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:03,359
and told her that i was something older

1242
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:06,160
than the earth itself

1243
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:08,160
and that

1244
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:10,880
there was nothing that could be done

1245
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:12,640
to get rid of me

1246
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:14,640
and then i was going to proceed to kill

1247
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,599
our dogs and burn the house down and let

1248
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:19,680
james set in the middle of the fire and

1249
00:48:26,309 --> 00:48:23,910
because

1250
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:26,319
whenever i came out of it i was laying

1251
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:28,000
in the fetal position on the floor with

1252
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:29,920
the dog standing over me

1253
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:32,319
i had tears streaming down my cheeks the

1254
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,480
dogs were licking me

1255
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:36,319
and

1256
00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:39,520
i was trying to figure out what happened

1257
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:41,119
because i was

1258
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:42,319
fine

1259
00:48:46,829 --> 00:48:43,440
and then

1260
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:46,839
it because it was about eight o'clock

1261
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,920
and all of a sudden it was

1262
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:51,599
9 30.

1263
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:53,920
and

1264
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:56,160
i called her

1265
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:58,079
and said

1266
00:49:02,549 --> 00:48:59,599
did i call you

1267
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:02,559
because i have call logs saying that i

1268
00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:04,000
called you

1269
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:05,839
and she said yeah and she was crying

1270
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:07,839
when i when i she answered the phone she

1271
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:09,119
was crying

1272
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,559
she said don't please don't hurt

1273
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:12,400
yourself for our dogs please don't burn

1274
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:13,599
a house and i'm going what are you

1275
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:15,599
talking about and then she explained to

1276
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:21,190
yeah i

1277
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,760
have no idea what it is but it's still

1278
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:25,520
there my dogs see it i've had

1279
00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:27,280
experiences with shadow people in that

1280
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:29,599
house before um

1281
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:32,000
an eight eight and a half foot tall

1282
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:33,920
shadow person came through my kitchen

1283
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:35,040
door

1284
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:36,800
walked in i was laying on our couch

1285
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:38,960
asleep it come walking through the door

1286
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:41,119
it actually ducked to go under the

1287
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:42,240
header

1288
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:44,319
and come into the room and laid down on

1289
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:47,599
top of me put its arms around me wrapped

1290
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:51,200
its legs around my legs and proceeded to

1291
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:52,400
drain

1292
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:55,520
my life force that's what it felt like

1293
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:56,720
um

1294
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:58,880
i akin it to

1295
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:00,960
the lights going out that's what it felt

1296
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:04,079
like like my life light was going out

1297
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:08,400
and i i had sleep paralysis at that time

1298
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:10,160
when i saw it coming into the room i

1299
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:12,640
couldn't move i couldn't do anything but

1300
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:14,559
just barely breathe

1301
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:16,880
whenever it got on top of me and i

1302
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:19,680
started feeling like i was dying

1303
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:22,000
i managed to let out one yell and i

1304
00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:24,240
yelled my girlfriend's name and she was

1305
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:26,319
sleeping in a chair across the room from

1306
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:27,040
me

1307
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:29,040
and whenever she woke up it turned into

1308
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:35,670
do you think that there's any

1309
00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:38,400
relationship between that phenomena and

1310
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,440
in the

1311
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:41,520
upright kingdom the dog man

1312
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:44,079
personally i believe they're two

1313
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:47,200
separate okay two separate occasions or

1314
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:48,880
two separate entities

1315
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:50,559
um because

1316
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:51,920
we i

1317
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:53,520
saw

1318
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:55,680
it was so weird looking it looked like a

1319
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:58,559
cephalopod it had tentacles

1320
00:51:02,069 --> 00:51:00,160
coming off of its head

1321
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:02,079
and its arms were like

1322
00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:04,240
like it had several arms but they were

1323
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:07,359
more like like tentacles than arms

1324
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:09,440
and it was up in the corner of my living

1325
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:10,800
room

1326
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:12,640
perched in the corner

1327
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:14,480
holding itself up in the corner and i

1328
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:18,319
didn't notice it at first but my one dog

1329
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,559
was looking at it growling

1330
00:51:24,549 --> 00:51:22,480
and i was like what's wrong buddy what's

1331
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:24,559
going on and he started looking up the

1332
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:26,880
stairs and growling and i looked over

1333
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:28,160
and it's

1334
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,160
right there plain as me

1335
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:32,160
and it smiled at me

1336
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:33,440
and it had

1337
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:35,680
just dagger teeth

1338
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:37,440
and red eyes

1339
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:39,760
it smiled at me my dog ran and jumped up

1340
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:41,839
on my couch and dove at it and went

1341
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:43,359
through it

1342
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,160
and

1343
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,880
it disappeared

1344
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:48,240
wow

1345
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:49,520
yeah it's interesting some of the

1346
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:52,079
manifestations people see of anything

1347
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:54,880
you know it's um but more times than not

1348
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:57,119
people that do experience something as

1349
00:52:01,829 --> 00:51:59,760
profound as what you experienced

1350
00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:01,839
do have other types of paranormal

1351
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:03,680
activity and you know i don't know if

1352
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:05,280
it's because of that

1353
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:07,760
they're more open to it or or what the

1354
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:10,240
deal is but it does happen a lot now we

1355
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,640
did have somebody asked earlier if

1356
00:52:17,109 --> 00:52:14,720
there's any um

1357
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:17,119
any instances where someone a hunter or

1358
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:18,559
someone who's known to kill one of these

1359
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:19,680
things now

1360
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:21,599
that dark walker account that i had

1361
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:23,440
talked about which was not far from

1362
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:24,720
where you were

1363
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:26,480
uh

1364
00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:28,880
that thing was shot and killed i mean

1365
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:31,280
the the witness i talked to the young

1366
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:32,880
the young boy

1367
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:34,640
said uh he definitely saw lynn in the

1368
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:36,720
back of the pickup now he wasn't sure

1369
00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:38,800
what it was i don't know if it was a

1370
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:41,839
bigfoot or some type of you know canine

1371
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:42,880
but

1372
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:44,880
uh i don't know i mean you've read the

1373
00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:46,880
account what do you think

1374
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:49,680
i personally i think it was a sasquatch

1375
00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:50,960
right of

1376
00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:53,839
of a type right maybe not what we think

1377
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:56,319
of when we think of a sasquatch but it

1378
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:59,440
was definitely some form of

1379
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:00,400
of an

1380
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:04,960
of a primate for lack of a better word

1381
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:07,280
well you know there is a legend i don't

1382
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:09,119
even know if it's an old shawnee legend

1383
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:11,200
or what the deal is in that part of the

1384
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,880
country but um

1385
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:14,640
of the stone man you know i don't know

1386
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:16,160
what that is i don't know if that's a

1387
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:18,559
sasquatch or a bigfoot or what it was

1388
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,880
uh i i know that witness had brought it

1389
00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:22,640
up that his his grandfather had told him

1390
00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:25,200
about the stone man that's maybe what i

1391
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:26,319
don't know

1392
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:27,119
you know

1393
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:29,920
when it comes into indigenous lore

1394
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:32,640
uh some of the representations they have

1395
00:53:36,309 --> 00:53:34,880
with these things is uh

1396
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:36,319
it's different between them but it's

1397
00:53:40,069 --> 00:53:38,079
pretty well the same you know they all

1398
00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:40,079
they all knew something was there

1399
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:41,760
right

1400
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:44,240
yeah well unlike with the stone man too

1401
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:47,280
some people believe that they wear armor

1402
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:48,880
some type and some believe that it's

1403
00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:51,440
just their hair is so matted thick with

1404
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:53,520
dirt and mud that it prevents arrows

1405
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:55,440
from penetrating it

1406
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:57,440
so i mean that

1407
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:59,599
right there that's too varying

1408
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:00,800
absolutely

1409
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:02,559
yeah it could be anything really but

1410
00:54:07,589 --> 00:54:05,359
yeah yeah i i've heard all kinds of

1411
00:54:08,829 --> 00:54:07,599
interpretations of the stoneman

1412
00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:08,839
legend it's

1413
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:11,359
um uh but i think it's an old shawnee

1414
00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:14,559
legend but i'm not quite sure um

1415
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:16,960
james uh this is from higher ground uh

1416
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:19,359
you ever smell sulfur like a strong

1417
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:22,640
campfire match being struck nearby

1418
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:24,400
no i

1419
00:54:28,870 --> 00:54:26,720
i mean i have but not during my

1420
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:28,880
encounters right um during the

1421
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:31,839
encounters i i didn't smell anything

1422
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:32,640
but

1423
00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:35,040
like i told you before the wind was

1424
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:36,799
swirling around

1425
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:39,040
rapidly so i mean it it could have been

1426
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:41,520
there and just been at my back the whole

1427
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:43,040
time

1428
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:46,240
um or blown across me

1429
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:49,359
um but no i never smelled anything on

1430
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:50,240
either

1431
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:52,880
of my encounters other than that smell

1432
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:55,119
of death that come out of the one's

1433
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:56,400
mouth

1434
00:54:59,670 --> 00:54:57,200
um

1435
00:55:02,789 --> 00:54:59,680
now i have smelled sulfur in those woods

1436
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:02,799
before it smells like a burning match

1437
00:55:04,789 --> 00:55:03,839
um

1438
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:04,799
just

1439
00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:10,960
you know make campgrounds or to hunt or

1440
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:12,720
just just to get out in the woods you

1441
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:13,599
know

1442
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:14,400
um

1443
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,720
i've had rocks thrown at me down in

1444
00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:18,000
there

1445
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:20,799
you know and i was actually i was

1446
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:22,960
working on digging a fire pit across the

1447
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:25,680
hillside it was on the same hillside as

1448
00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:28,079
i had my encounter

1449
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,000
this was before i had the encounter

1450
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:34,559
uh in 2002

1451
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:37,440
i was working on digging a fire pit and

1452
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:40,079
i got that real strong smell

1453
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:41,280
of

1454
00:55:48,789 --> 00:55:46,640
but it only lasted for a few seconds and

1455
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:48,799
then it was gone and nothing

1456
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:50,880
ever came of it you know nothing never

1457
00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:53,680
confronted me or anything so

1458
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:56,480
um but i do know the area

1459
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:58,720
occasionally does have that

1460
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:01,040
weird smell to it

1461
00:56:05,109 --> 00:56:03,119
you know i'd be interested to find out

1462
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:05,119
that when the the uh the mine was

1463
00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:07,760
working it was that shale they were

1464
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:10,319
mining there uh well there had been

1465
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,400
anything similar any type of sightings

1466
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:14,160
around during that time

1467
00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:16,559
yeah i don't know um i know they did

1468
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:18,799
coal at the bottom they did coal and

1469
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:21,760
shale and then right now they just built

1470
00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:24,559
a new facility back in there

1471
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:27,119
to um

1472
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:29,599
oh what's the word am i using to refine

1473
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:30,559
the

1474
00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:37,040
and

1475
00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:40,480
burn it as fuel oh okay so they yeah

1476
00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:42,720
they built a multi-million dollar

1477
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:45,599
facility back in there to burn the shell

1478
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:52,789
so i i think if anything if if there's a

1479
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:54,960
population of dog men back in there i

1480
00:56:59,829 --> 00:56:57,599
bet they're highly pissed

1481
00:57:02,390 --> 00:56:59,839
well yeah and you got to think about

1482
00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:02,400
that you you figured that

1483
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:04,880
if when that mine first went in there if

1484
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:07,119
it was kind of uh invading on their

1485
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:09,599
territory or whatever and these things

1486
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:11,520
just let out um

1487
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:13,359
you know i can see that and i mean you

1488
00:57:17,109 --> 00:57:15,760
had encounters with what you thought may

1489
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:17,119
have been bigfoot

1490
00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:19,440
and uh you know that's nothing unusual

1491
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:21,599
in greene county and um you know it's

1492
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:24,000
pretty well known bigfoot activity

1493
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:25,520
uh so you know could have been that

1494
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:26,960
involved too especially the stuff's

1495
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:28,880
throwing stuff at you you know yeah and

1496
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:30,880
that's what it was it was rocks about

1497
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:32,240
the size

1498
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:34,799
of a pebble to a golf ball

1499
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:37,280
that's what was just getting pelted pelt

1500
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:39,599
and pelted with it

1501
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:41,760
now the mines

1502
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:44,240
where i live

1503
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:46,480
they're abandoned now

1504
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:48,880
okay the ones that are down by the river

1505
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:51,200
itself where they used to bring the coal

1506
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:54,240
and shell in to off of the barges they

1507
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,240
used to load them there

1508
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:58,640
and um those there's

1509
00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:00,720
two or i think there's three buildings

1510
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:02,319
down there they're all abandoned they

1511
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:04,640
have sub floors in them to where they

1512
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:06,640
have basements

1513
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:09,680
that sometimes fill with water

1514
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:10,640
um

1515
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:13,520
and in certain like the shafts in the

1516
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:15,920
basements will fill with water but

1517
00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:18,079
i was actually talking to my dad not too

1518
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:20,079
long ago saying that

1519
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:22,000
you know why couldn't something be

1520
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:23,200
living

1521
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:24,640
in those

1522
00:58:29,109 --> 00:58:27,040
you know that's a perfect habitat for a

1523
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:29,119
dog man there's food there's water

1524
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:30,079
source

1525
00:58:33,349 --> 00:58:31,599
there's shelter

1526
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:33,359
you know there's everything that they

1527
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:34,240
need

1528
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:37,760
to survive and still be undetected

1529
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:40,799
unless you physically go after them to

1530
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:43,040
to find them you're not going to see

1531
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:45,119
them right if they don't want to be seen

1532
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:48,160
they're not going to be seen

1533
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:49,440
well james i want to thank you for

1534
00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:51,119
coming on and i really appreciate it you

1535
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:52,960
know i when i when you called me on the

1536
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:55,440
phone and told me your story i i knew i

1537
00:58:59,589 --> 00:58:57,839
had to get you on the show and uh i

1538
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:59,599
appreciate you taking the time to do

1539
00:59:01,670 --> 00:59:00,480
that

1540
00:59:03,829 --> 00:59:01,680
uh

1541
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:03,839
look if something else comes up please

1542
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:05,680
promise me you're going to come back oh

1543
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:06,960
absolutely

1544
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:08,480
okay well you have a good evening good

1545
00:59:13,990 --> 00:59:10,640
weekend i i will talk to you soon hey

1546
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:14,000
you too thank you take care now

1547
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:15,680
now if you have an unexplained encounter

1548
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:17,359
citing feel free to contact me through

1549
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:19,520
the phantoms of monsters blog site i

1550
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:21,359
want to again thank james west for

1551
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:23,200
joining me this evening

1552
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:25,119
and thanks to each and all you for

1553
00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:27,520
watching and chatting if you made a

1554
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:29,920
super chat donation it's truly

1555
00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:31,839
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1556
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:34,160
this all possible so please like

1557
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:36,000
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1558
00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:38,720
now next week we got a big show coming

1559
00:59:43,270 --> 00:59:40,720
because we'll be discussing

1560
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:43,280
the chicago wing humanoids and the new

1561
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:46,960
sightings at o'hare in milwaukee uh

1562
00:59:50,789 --> 00:59:49,520
tobias whalen and emmanuel navrat who

1563
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:50,799
are uh

1564
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:52,640
team members on the phantoms my

1565
00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:54,480
supporting research team

1566
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:56,720
will be joining me and look we got a lot

1567
01:00:02,150 --> 00:59:59,200
to talk about because it has been nuts

1568
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:02,160
lately we had this big encounter in july

1569
01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:04,319
22nd where there's been at least a dozen

1570
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:06,079
witnesses so far

1571
01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:09,119
plus tsa security and and carrier

1572
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:11,440
supervisors and such so

1573
01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:13,440
you know and it seems to be surrounding

1574
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:16,160
the the cemetery the the resthaven

1575
01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:18,720
cemetery on the property down by the the

1576
01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:21,280
western side of the cargo area so um

1577
01:00:25,190 --> 01:00:23,520
yeah join us next week that's gonna be a

1578
01:00:27,270 --> 01:00:25,200
fantastic show

1579
01:00:29,430 --> 01:00:27,280
and we're probably gonna have some more

1580
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:29,440
revelations to uh

1581
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:31,440
to hand out to you all so don't miss

1582
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:34,079
that so until next week stay healthy and

1583
01:00:57,700 --> 01:00:46,470
[Music]

1584
01:00:57,710 --> 01:01:22,780
[Applause]